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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 219
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Things we missed |
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I wish that Trudi made more history-telling books like TMA... I want to find out about that woman in The Tomb Of White Tears, who was "fair and honourable" and "Protected the island with high magic", i want to find out about Armje... and whatever happened a thousand years ago that lead it to become abandoned, and that lead to that woman Having To Protect the Vin Island... Was there a war? Maybe it had been 1000 years since Sachaka had taken over Kyralia and expanded their empire? That would mean after 100 years, they got their indipenance, and 200 years later, the sachakan war, 700 years later, Sonea. But then, in Armje, the store stones... Higher Magic... in TMA, it was mentioned that Sachaka had let the Kyralians learn High Magic - while they were ruling them - unintentionally... So maybe Armje was older then that? Although this was Elyne, and sharing of magical knowledge was not common within a country, let alone over the border... especially not before the alliance... So Armje & the Woman existed much earlier perhaps... I thought maybe Armje was abandoned during Elyne being conquered, and the women buried in Vin existed when there was a need for a magician with higher magic to kill invading Sachakans? It was never mentioned that Vin had ever been conquered...
Wow.... I love this kinda history... so cool <3
The Blood Gem that Dem Ladeiri had on that silver ring...I just want to mention that it had the Ancient Vindo symbol of High Magic (Higher Magic/Black Magic) engraved in it, I think its ancient, not Akkarin's or anything, as people have previously wondered - usually to do with the Forth Blood Gem.
Also, in the Chamber Of Ultimate Punishment, Akkarin had sketched a warning above the doorway - Why had it disappeared? Akkarin implied someone may have broken it off... that combined with Dem Ladeiri's enthusiasm persuading Dannyl to have a look in Armje... even Akkarin thought it was fishy.. i think... he did frown.... Did the Dem go to see it with Akkarin? Did the Dem send Dannyl to his death? Also how did Akkarin find out about this place? I mean, it's purpose - enough to know to put a warning up... Had he been inside? Was he powerful enough to break the sheild? He implied he thought it was stronger then that though... Had someone else found it, gone in and used up a lot of the stones' power by going in and making them use their power to kill them.....Wha???
"Willing his globe light to brighten, Dannyl gasped as the light reflected off a glittering dome. The surface sparkled and shimmered as if covered by innumerable gem-stones."
Gem stones... Armje is over 1000 years old, before the war, before Kyralia had its indipendance.... Maybe even before Sachaka ruled them? ... These Gems..... They were something Spppeecciialll.... They gotta be in the next trilogy.. right? What do you think they can do? Stroe stones they are called... are they all used as storestones? designed to release magic in differecnt ways? but in TMA, Stara's earring is a lil different..,..?
Anyway...
Let Me Answer Somethings....
| >I.n.d.r.i.a.< wrote: |
| Well, as you`ve seen on the "Akkarin and Sonea's song" thread, some people have re-read the books and want found out things we missed the first time, so here`s a thread about it. I said on it, that I read the third one and Sonea was in the Hole of the Ichanis room and found a ring with the house of Saril`s incal on it. The house of Saril (I think) was Jolens house and he`d died that day. COINCEDENCE? I THINK NOT. |
I've only read the books once, but I realised this, before Akkarin had time to contemplate what these item meant when in the Inchani's aclove, he changed the subject because Lorlen and the other higher magicians had found the books in Sonea's room & the chest in the basement room....
But I think that the Ichani woman was wearing a blood ring when reading Jolen's mind, so another Ichani knew that Kyralia was weak. But she only had one blood ring linked to one other Ichani because of privacy and trust issures among them. I doubt she or the other Ichani would allow another Ichani to read their mind, because of trust once again. So she pplanned to bring with her, to Sachaka, the Ring of house Saril & the shawl/cloak/whatEverItWas as a souveneir and proof that she killed a guild magician. Also Akkarin said she was a weak Ichani, so if she came back having killed a guild magician, the Ichani would know for sure he didn't have black magic, if he did he would have defeated her. Then again, she may have planned to plant these items in Akkarin's home or on him to frame him further...
| Shadowed Empress wrote: |
I'm re-reading the High Lord now and I realized I had never paid attention to the small part on page 527 I think, where Sonea returns to the guest rooms after she and Akkarin take the dwells power:
"Akkarin sat before a table laden with plates of fresh food, a glass of wine in his hand. Beside him sat Takan.
Akkarin looked up at Sonea and smiled. She noticed that Takan was regarding her closely, and began to wonder what they had been talking about before she arrived."
I realized it was likely they could have been having a conversation similar to what Sonea and Jonna were having, as in something along the lines of "..how sure are you about her"...
Just a little thing I hadn't considered the previous two times I read it... |
This is something I'm interested in, did he know she was pregnant? Had they been talking of marriage? Had Akkarin confirmed Takan's suspicions of them having... Haha.. Relations... On their journey?
| jasmin wrote: |
when i read the first book again i noticed that dannyl was followed by a sachakan man one time he was in the slums
he went into a house to hide and saw the knife in the mans hand ..
so he was quite close to get killed through black magic O.o
if he had not hidden then the guild maybe would have known about black magicians much earlier .. |
I noticed this too, but i only realised it was a Sachakan slave when I was reading The Magician's Apprentice strangly enough. I think it was a black magician, but if Dannyl had confronted him (like he was contemplating - to give him to the guard) he would have been killed, and the slave would have discovered the guild magicians were too weak to be black magicians - or "higher" magicians. So the Ichani would have found out sooner, however, the guild would probably have never known it was the Ichani slaves killing, they probably thought it was a rogue black magician, and Lorlen would think it was Akkarin, so would rother & sonea =S
But then, if the Ichani decided to make their move on the Fort before Akkarin was descovered to be using black magic, parhaps Akkarin could confess all he knows, and perhaps submit to a truth read? Or .. omg.. something just occured to me! Takan! They should have truth read him !!!=( (Then no one would have been exiled, and no one would have accidently ended up learning about Black Magic as Akkarin apparently feared...) But back to the point, if someone had submitted to a truth read, and the Fort had been attacked, I'm sure the guild would have believed him and maybe he wouldn't have ended up dying - if, say, the entire city gave him their power =D Or at least the guild - a few times over of course... Something like that anyway....
| j_mercuryuk wrote: |
| I noticed something when I was reading tHL again. Now maybe I'm just reading to much into this, but here it is. Sonea's reading through the missing record and it talks about a 'secret weapon'. Now the first time I read this Ijust assumed that they were talking about the books and knowledge of black magic, but reading it a second time I thought, "That's a funny way to describe books and knowlegde." Again, I'll admit that maybe I'm readint o much into it, but maybe the weapon isn't the books. :Shrug: I'm prober;y wrong, I mean it sounds even more far fetch now I've writen it down. |
I suppose if it is anything else, it will be revealved... I just read that bit myself... Hmm... I'm thinking a Store Stone? Narvelan supposidly used the last one in existance when creating the wastelands in tMA... do you think they found another? The Traitors might have sold them another? although that would be foolish seen as though they are Sahcakan... Ermm.... Well we know they can be grown, and you need Higher Magic to make the stones/gem to have magical properties... You never know.. I really do think that Store Stones are going to play a large role in the new trilogy, especially seeing as though Stara discovered caves that might hold instructions to create them - in an ancient language, but it may be possible to translate with the help of the Duna tribes... The could be the first people to ever grow & create the store stones - well recently anyways...After all, in the event of an invasion, even if it someone had been smart enough to decode those wierd instructions to find the store of knowledge, without having to spend 5 months searching, i doubt they would have been able to rediscover HOW to use black magic, only of its previous existance.... Like Lord Sabin wasn't able to... I'm sure that the guild magicians weren't naivly stupid enough to not have realised this.... Hm.... Surely if it had been merely knowledge as the weapon, its existance owuld have been known to the high lord, or the head of alchemy... after all it is knowledge, not the skill of concentration and focus like what is likely to be found in the head of healing, nor is it the skill of strategy of attack and defence, like what is likely to be found in the head of worriors.... So maybe this is a weapon that only the head of Worrior would be smart enough to know how to use it effectively.... Oh My God.. it's this kinda of assumption (or thinking it was the SoK not an actual weapon) that makes people feel so ... stupid =o... I only assumed it was a SoK because it was suddenly mentioned in the next sentance after the mention of the SoK... but I suppose, it was in a new sentance... new paragraph infact now that i look... so it doesn't mean they are even linked!!
Damn I feel dumb. I think you may be onto something j_mercuryuk.... =]
"I proposed a secret store of knowledge, to be opened only if the Guild
faced certain destruction"
Certain Destruction. Maybe even after the use of the "Secret Weapon" that no-one Knows The Nature Of.... Knowing Trudi Canavan's Kind Of Writing.... I think this is too mysterious not to mean something... Wowwwiee!! =D ... Maybe its if the guild is completely ruined, probably by Sachaka, they hoped that the rare knowledge they had of higher magic might still survive, and make the Kyralians powerful enough to overcome the Sachakans again, probably centuries after they're taken over though =( ... Ah Well... Better then nothing I suppose =/...
"Below this last entry was a note:
Seventy years later Lord Koril, Head of Warriors, died in a practice bout at the age of twenty-eight. It is likely that he did not have an opportunity to pass on the knowledge of the secret 'weapon."
See! =D Even Akkarin was smart enough not to write down an assumption of it being the secret SoK... So neither should we be ^^... Awhh.. Now I'm imagining Sonea having to go through these records when/if this issue of the weapon arises in the new trilogy... imagine her sitting there reading his words.... thinking of the last time she read that book... memory lane.. =(
Poor her, after all she's gone through and lost for Kyralia to stay Free from Sachaka... she'll probaby have to do it agian.... If Trudi kills Lorkin, her son, all Sonea has, I'm going to be sooo mad.. Or if Trudi kills Sonea, after all this time we've spent with her... No! Don't! Please!!!!!! I Will Be So Damn Depressed! If this is the last Kyralia book you writing - or the one set in the latest time frame, please, oh please, for once, let it be a happy ending... After Akkain (R.I.P. Sxc =(... ) we need one...
Here's soemthing I noticed
"He paused then to take a deep breath. "The woman who explained everything to me at the beginning was a strong potential magician. She might have been a powerful Healer if she had been born Kyralian. Instead, Dakova kept her as a bed slave." Akkarin grimaced"
He paused to take a deep breath.. he was obvious concious of the fact he was talking of his first love.... worried he'd give too much away...
""Then, soon after my return, the High Lord died. Custom dictated that the
strongest magician take the position. I never considered I might be a candidate. I was only twenty-five, after all. But I had accidentally allowed Lord Balkan to sense my strength. I was surprised when he proposed that I be considered, and amazed at how much support the idea had. It is interesting what people will overlook when they desperately want to avoid electing a man they don't like."
Intrigued, Sonea opened her mouth to ask who, but Akkarin continued."
Ooo... Who? I bet you it was Lord Rothens Mentor or something =]
| j_mercuryuk wrote: |
| Tut tut, I think I've found an inconsitancy. In tN every one says that Akkarin was traveling for 5 years, correct? But then Akkarin says, in tHL that he was a prisoner in Sachaka for 5 years. |
He was, maybe his studies of ancient magic took say, a month. He was more determined then Dannyl, probably because of his "Thirst For Advanture"... or was that Hunger?...? Ah Well. Maybe he's just so much smarter? maybe all the gurlies and gay guys loved him enough to tell him tonnes of information =] After all he is hawwt... Lol now im just thinking of what the hawt (unfortunatly for the gurls, gay) Tayend must have thought, travelling & helping the Hawtttiee Akkarin? =D ... Mmmm.. Muah Pliz <3 =]
Can I Ask A Question Only Partially Relevent? 4th Blook Gem. Head Of Guard? "A friend in a useful place" Tania? "Oh, I'm watching Rothen very closely." ???? Any one notice any new information?
| Shadowed Empress wrote: |
| Cery calls Akkarin to ask him why he brought Sonea to the whole thing, and then thinks, take care of her to him, and he turns and nods. I think perhaps the rumour of the High Lord being able to read minds at a distance may have some truth in it =) |
Also, Akkarin mentions that he read Lorlen's surface thoughts the day he found out Lorlen knew of his using of black magic. Also, he mentioned - when he was lying to Davoka about having ofund hidden treasures & food - that Davoka might be able to read his surface thoughts, and any hint of betrayl would lead to Davoka reading his mind and discovering the truth. I think reading surface thoughts is part of higher magic, along with storing power given form a foreign source, taking power unwillingly - and through a broken/wavering barrier.. making blood gems, making store stones... etc.
He probably learnt it from that Secret Store Of Knowledge...
| Shadowed Empress wrote: |
I can't find the page number right now, but I was going through tHL and finding some favourite quotes of mine to write down, and I came across the part where, after learning black magic, Sonea says something like 'I hope I never have to use this, because that would mean the High Lord had died and I only recently stopped wishing that would happen' and I saw the part which follows in a whole new light:
"Takan let out a bark of laughter. 'I like this one, master! You chose well when you took on her guardianship.'
Akkarin snorted slightly and uncrossed his arms. 'You know very well I didn't choose anything, Takan,' he said."
I know Akkarin's most likely referring to his lack of choice at learning black magic during his slavery, but what if theres some subtle little underlying meaning too? What if he means he didn't choose to have feelings for Sonea? As in, he wished he could choose not to have this attraction but he can't help it? I know I'm reading too much into it, but it was a little possibility which struck me on my re-read, and one I hadn't considered before, so I thought I'd share.
Opinions? Did anyone else interpret little things like this in a shippy way? Or is my Akkarin/Sonea love making me obsess over meaningless details? ^_^ |
Isn't it just that he didn't choose Sonea as his guardian, he had no choice because she found out about his secret, and so he had to take her guaridanship to use her a s a semi-hostage?
| Alira wrote: |
| I just remembered, when I wrote to trudi this month and she didn´t give me a satisfying reply, about th King of Charkan Tayend and Dannyl mention in TN. Dorrien later talks about a Sakan-king, and I think it is the same. But what is it? |
| Kasloumor wrote: |
| I am quite certain that this will be picked up in the sequel. |
Sa-Charkan Empire? Sa-Charkan King. Maybe its a translation error? they're unlikely to be able to translate anything but the pronouciation of the words at most, not the spelling... makeing the "sa" was added after a few centuries or something, it said the Charkan King (Another country on a another island? The former ruler of a county that has been consumbed by another, and has now lost its individual identity? A country begining with "sa" and a country ending in, or being called Charkan? combining together to make Cashaka?) existed whenr Armja was still around, he came to give gifts... Maybe the stones that they used in the Tomb Of Ultimate Justice? maybe he grew them up in Duna, which was once his country? and gave them as gifts for alliances, or sold them for money & resources?
Probably will be mentioned in the sequel... YAY!
I just noticed..
""High Lord."
An Alchemist stood just outside the door of a classroom farther down the corridor. Akkarin stopped. "Yes, Lord Halvin?" The teacher hurried forward. "Sonea has not appeared for class this morning. Is she unwell?"
Lorlen saw a look of concern cross Akkarin's face, but he could not tell if it was for Sonea's wellbeing, or that she was not where she was supposed to be."
ITS BECAUSE HE LOVES HERRR!!! =D =D =D!!! <3 <3 <3 !!! Awhh. I love him so damn much =]
BTW, a note, I call the Cavern of Ultimate Justice a Tomb or Chamber sometimes, and sometimes instead of Justice, I write Punishment... Erm.. Sorry =S
| Evanwilliams wrote: |
| Hey i know no ones been on here for ages but just had to ask if any of you noticed sometime in TN when Sonea woke up to find Akkarin in her room and all she could see was a pale hand and pale oval floating above the hand, do you think it might have been a store stone? |
Wasn't the oval just his face? after that bit it says something like "other then that, he was invisable under his black robes"....? Invisable. Meaning his face was either hidden, or already mentioned..?
| Lorlyn wrote: |
| sounds like it's more of a globe light but I haven't read the books in a really long time. |
Myy... 3 years ago =S
This forum is so long haha... God. Sorry for the super long, super late comment, but some things I saw I had to comment on =S
| Lady Laura wrote: |
Ok, back on topic...
In book 1, Dannyl pretends his name is Larkin to the Thief. I only realised the 3rd time I read BMT that this is the name of the magician who teaches Sonea in Book 3 i think. He also appears briefly in other places.
Is there any significance in this?  |
I think he just picked a Kyralian name =]
Now, let me think of things we missed in The Magician's Apprentice... God it was sad Dakon died =( I have not read it a second time, I only finished it the first time last night... As I described before, Dakon's death wass brief, probably breif so it could be included in some huge plot inb the new trilogy and every one will suddenly remember him unexpectedly and be like "OMG THATS HOW HE DIED!!! Wow...!!!" ... Drained of his power... Not scrath nor cut.. What's your theories? at first i thought it was just a scratch, and the power was withdrawn slowly, then he was healed after death. Then I thought.. Stara... The images of that gem which seemed to take/stone the power of the other man in the images on the cave she discovered.... Did this person use higher magic to take this man's power, then put it into the stone like Narvelan did with the Emperor's power? or did this person use the stone to take the power, and store it in the stone without direct contact? without having to cut him? Maybe the power coulkd be taken form the stone bit by bit as of when this person pleased? How Cool! Was this how Dakon was killed? Was it by one of the Traitors as they call themselves. Or was it a cunning assasin? Or was there a subplot not mentioned, where Dakon gave all his power to another - Like Akkarin did =(.... or maybe he was exaughsted to death like Lorlen was =(...? Theories?
I have no idea how long this comment will be... sorry!!! =( Worth the read I hope.... =] Xx |
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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A rather random thought occured to me... Maybe Trudi killed Lorlen because he wanted to "free" up the spot for another a point of view.... Maybe a Traitor =D
Because Sonea will obviously still be talking, once she leaves (i hope she does leave..) for Sachaka to find Lorkin, Rothen will be there to report to us on what happening on in the guild. Then Dannyl can report for Elyne, Cery for the "underworld" and the fifth (Trudi never goes beyond 5 point of views...) would be a new character, probably a sachakan or someone in Sachaka.. I doubt it owuld be Lorkin.. but it could be, or someone travelling with him? Takan? ... God knows. But, Theories? _________________ *~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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Lady Laura Magician


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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh, I think I aged a couple years after reading THAT post!!! lol
But well done for your enthusiasm
I have to admit, I also wondered what Tayend thought of Akkarin...I was surprised he didnt accidentally start gushing about him: "I actually spoke with him, Dannyl, cant you believe it?! Me? And now he's famous and the High Lord and all! I still have that lock of his hair I stole from him, hidden under my pillow..."
And then there's just this long awkward silence, and Dannyl's like "WHY did you have to tell me that?!"  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
** Honoured Mentor to Black Magician Sonea Nee Lady **
~ Proud Founder of the Dannyl & Tayend Appreciation Society ~ |
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Kyllikki_Sari 2nd Yr Novice


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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Things we missed |
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| Black Magician Sonea Nee wrote: |
Can I Ask A Question Only Partially Relevent? 4th Blook Gem. Head Of Guard? "A friend in a useful place" Tania? "Oh, I'm watching Rothen very closely." ???? Any one notice any new information? |
Aha! Good point! Tania- the holder of the 4th blood gem? But how would Akkarin give it to her??... |
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Lady Laura :-
HAHA!! Awwh! Imagine the corruption in the poor boys mind! =D
But Tayend is apparently so handsome, I bet ya they'd still get together ;)
Kyllikki_Sari :-
I guess she's a servent so she walks around the place all the time right? I mean, she told Ezrille and Yaldin ( I think that's their names?) that he was taking sleeping drugs - because she was worried about him, she puts her concerns about him over his "orders" or "wishes". So I'm guessing she doesn't know enough about Magic to know the blood ring is blood magic.. if Akkarin summoned her or simply searched for her, he could give her the ring and tell her not to tell Rothen, that its just there so Akkarin can keep an eye on him... So that Akkarin can track his greivance progress.... He has a way with words.. I'm sure he could persuade her, He'd only have to ask Takan to give it...
Although as I discuss this, I kinda doubt it.. I mean it would keep and eye on Rothen, but Trudi said if you looked closely you could tell, and when I look cloesly, every shred of evidenc e (All is remote... extremely Remote.) points to the Head of the Guard... But then.. I cant think of a time he would meet with Akkarin.. plus he knows theres a red gem on the murderer... Maybe Akkarin put it there secretly?n I dought it.. although Tania or the Head owuld make sense... _________________ *~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
Black Magician Sonea NEE "Lady
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..Proud Novice Of Lady Laura<3..
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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……..Akkarin Of Family Delvon…….
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Lady Laura Magician


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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit, I imagined most of the male main characters to be good looking lol Not realistic HaHa
I just know someone has the answer to the 4th Blood Gem, and i keep thinking it'll make sense when we hear it _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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(LOL Nothing about this books is all too realistic So Dont Worry, like I say, the imagination is not logical... =D)
I agree, I know Trudi said someone got it right... But I don't think even that person knows =C... So how will we?
She says if you look closely you can figure it out - but if we look closely, there's so many potencial ring holders! Which one? She'll never confirm or deny, at least not within the next few years, so what can we do? We could guess and hope we guess right, but what would be the point? We wouldn't even realise...
Unless there's a scene of Akkarin directly giving a ring to someone, but that's a completely different matter, and anyway, you don't have to look closely to see something like that, and if it were that obvious SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT BY NOW!
Hopeless *Sigh* Xx _________________ *~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
Black Magician Sonea NEE "Lady
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..Proud Novice Of Lady Laura<3..
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….In Grievance Of The Former…..
High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
………………..Of Kyralia…………………..
*~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
……..Akkarin Of Family Delvon…….
…………….Of House Velan……………..
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Lady Laura Magician


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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Exasperated Sigh...
Yes, this topic can drive you mad if you let it... Sure we'll find out in the next book.
I think we'd remember if he handed someone a ring, dats true  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
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It's driving me... well I'm mad already, madder? I think. I'd never though of Tania either, the problem is there seem to be so many possible candiadates and no-one clear favourite IMO. _________________ "Strike a light or light a lantern! Something I have hold of has no head."
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Very True Both Lady Laura & Lady Tya, Do you think we'll ever know? =(
I think this is the only mystery that I doubt will be resolved/revealed in the next trilogy... it seems like such a tiny detail, and Sonea didn't exactly dwell on it, I doubt she would have asked around to find out.
But you never know, one of her first lines could be "It was simple really, all this time, his forth blood gem had been in the artificial implant of my Uncle's leg pin" Though I doubt it'd go exactly like that... Sorry, been watching lots of "House" ^-^
Arh. I think its sticking in my mind more because I know she put it there deliberatly and that we're supposed to be able to figure it out... but I just... I just CAN'T.
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 219
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Here's a little fact, I can't remember if a cause/reason is mentioned in tMA, but Sachakan women smell "Spicy" although, as far as i know, it's only the Traitors... I only realised this after the last chapter of tHL. Cery smells Savara behind him...
A familiar spicy aroma filled his senses.
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..Proud Novice Of Lady Laura<3..
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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Lady Laura Magician


Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 755 Location: Ireland
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lol
I used to get fustrated trying to figure out who had the gem, but now im trying to just forget about it.
Maybe its really obvious.... that would annoy me if i never figured it out  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
** Honoured Mentor to Black Magician Sonea Nee Lady **
~ Proud Founder of the Dannyl & Tayend Appreciation Society ~ |
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Lady Tya Black Magician


Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 2687 Location: On a rock at the edge of the unknown universe
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it drove me half as crazy until I realized there was an answer. Before I was just like it one of those loose ends and no-one knows not even TC-- but then reading her comment(s?) on it made me really want to find out who has it. _________________ "Strike a light or light a lantern! Something I have hold of has no head."
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Lady Laura Magician


Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 755 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I kinda wish she never told us we could figure it out...  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
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~ Proud Founder of the Dannyl & Tayend Appreciation Society ~ |
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 219
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto Lady Tya, I think if she never told us Lady Larua no one would bother trying  _________________ *~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
Black Magician Sonea NEE "Lady
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..Proud Novice Of Lady Laura<3..
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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Lady Tya Black Magician


Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 2687 Location: On a rock at the edge of the unknown universe
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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We'd try but not tear ourselves up about it so much (or I wouldn't). _________________ "Strike a light or light a lantern! Something I have hold of has no head."
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"They told me negative thinking was bad. I said that it wasn't, not the kind that I had."
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"The first boy I kissed ended up in a coma for three weeks."
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Lady Laura Magician


Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 755 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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neither would I! Id spend my time on more worthwhile pursuits...  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
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Black Magician Sonea Nee 1st Yr Novice


Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 219
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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lol yeah, she better tell us eventually otherwise its just plain mean D= _________________ *~.~*~..~*~.~*~.~*~..~*~.~*
Black Magician Sonea NEE "Lady
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..Proud Novice Of Lady Laura<3..
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High Lord Of The Magicians Guild
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Lady Laura Magician


Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 755 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Im gonna march right up those mountains where she lives and give her a piece of my mind  _________________ - ALCHEMIST -
"Reading is one form of escape... Running for your life is another!"
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Lady Tya Black Magician


Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 2687 Location: On a rock at the edge of the unknown universe
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Melbourne has mountains? _________________ "Strike a light or light a lantern! Something I have hold of has no head."
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